Gene Dodaro is the Comptroller General of the United States. His agency works to ferret out waste, duplication, and fraud in government and they’ve realized savings in the billions of dollars. How do they do it? Dodaro sits down with Sanford’s dean Kelly Brownell to discuss his work. “I am amazed at the lack .. of some fundamental management principles that need to be put in place in government,” he says. “As a government we do not do a very good job of planning ahead. I’m always reminded of Winston Churchill’s quote about the United States where he says ‘The Americans will always do the right thing, but after they’ve tried everything else.'”

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